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Right — been on this thing for about a few months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, reckon I’d say something since a mate asked me a few days back. Am in the UK, mainly do football and horses, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.
What got me on it was genuinely pretty stupid — I never could work out what an e/w return actually was once you get five places instead of three. I’d just guess and then be surprised. Now I type the odds in first, every time, even a straight one-selection punt.
Their single bet calculator is the part I open most — you put in the price and your stake and it shows profit and total return straight away, either odds format. There’s also the bigger stuff — acca and treble returns, a lucky 15, yankees, honestly that’s where I’d always lose track. If you want a look, it’s over at accumulator betting calculator — free, no signup.
What actually shifted things for me were the geekier extras. They’ve got an probability thing which shows you what margin’s baked in, and there’s the kelly staking tool — I use half kelly as the full version is terrifying. The dutch tool gets used a fair bit for when I’m spreading across selections.
Not all sunshine though. Its layout looks a bit basic — no flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On mobile it’s usable though the acca grid make you pinch and zoom. There’s no app, just the site — slight shame just flagging it.
Right, that’s me. Free, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. Anyone who still works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — it’s saved me a fair few “wait, that’s it?” moments.
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So — been using this thing for maybe six months now and I keep coming back, so thought I’d say something since a lad on another thread asked me the other day. Am UK based, mostly bet football and racing, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.
How I found it was genuinely a bit daft — I could never figure out what an ew return would be once you get five places instead of three. I’d just wing it and moan when the payout landed. These days I type the odds in before I place anything, even a straight one-selection punt.
Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — you put in your stake, the odds and you get profit and total return with no faffing, either odds format. There’s also the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, yankees, and that’s where I always got it wrong. If you want a look, it’s over at bookmaker margin calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.
What really made a difference were the geekier tools. There’s an odds-to-probability calculator which shows you the overround, and there’s the kelly criterion tool — I run quarter kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. The dutching one is handy too when I’m splitting a race.
It’s not perfect mind. The layout is a bit basic — not much polish, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On my phone it’s fine but the lucky 63 breakdown need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s no proper app, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me but worth saying.
Right, that’s me. Doesn’t cost anything, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. Anyone who even now does the maths on paper, give it a go — it’s saved me a load of dumb bets I’d have regretted.